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Akamaru (Bon Edition) & "The Key 40" from Jump Chronicle

I know many of you are probably sick of me by now but there are a couple bits of news out there (and a bit of an opinion but I'll get to that in a bit) regarding a couple things: the next Akamaru Jump coming out around August (when the next break is around Bon) and a preview for what could be "the forty crucial series of the last 40 years" according to an exhibit on Jump Island.

Probably a few of you know by now but for the rest of you: there will be another Akamaru Jump coming out around Obon. (which is August)  Around then, we'll be getting a few special chapters and one-shots, including:
-The Final chapter (or an "after chapter") of Samurai Usagi (sort of like P2's ending a while back)
-Special chapters of To-LOVE, Nurarihyon, Double Arts & Toriko
-New one-shots by way of several previously published mangaka, including Aimoto Sho (MUDDY), Akira Akatsuki (Corrector M&Y) & Yasuhiro Kano (Mx0, Pretty Face)
-And of course: new one-shots by up and coming mangaka that could be series someday...don't ask what yet :P

A while back, they mentioned something called "Jump Chronicles", which essentially is going to be a collection of the 40 most notable and "important" (according to WSJ's peoples) series to ever be in the magazine.  Within the last couple days, the website for "Jump Island" (the big attraction of the summer which for the last few years has only been One Piece) has compiled a list of forty series that, most likely, are the ones that they say are it.  They will be introduced in there with some reading material for those interested.  The list is the following:
-One Piece
-Rokudenashi BLUES
-Rurouni Kenshin
-Yu-Gi-Oh!
-Midori no Makibao
-Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
-Hokuto no Ken (Fist of the North Star)
-Halleluya II: BOY
-Hoshin Engi
-Play Ball
-Bleach
-Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar
-HunterXHunter
-Harenchi Gakuen
-BASTARD
-Naruto
-Dragon Ball
-Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken
-Prince of Tennis
-Death Note
-Saint Seiya
-Century Ending Leader Legend Takeshi!
-Slam Dunk
-Stop!! Hibari-kun!
-JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
-Jungle King Ta-Chan
-Shaman King
-City Hunter
-Hell Teacher Nube
-Sakigake! Otokojuku
-Circuit no Ookami
-KochiKame
-Kinnikuman
-Gintama
-Captain Tsubasa
-Kimagure Orange Road
-Katekyo Hitman Reborn
-Otoko Ippiki Gaki Taisho
-Wingman
-Eyeshield 21

Looking over that list now, I'm actually quite impressed by the series that they are using for this event.  Practically all 40 are key Jump series from the known to the unknown.  However, like many lists, this one seems a bit incomplete thanks to a few omissions and decisions:
1. It seems like they are mostly sticking to one manga per mangaka going with either their most famous or what is in the magazine now.  But unfortunately, that brings out a lot of holes of what isn't there.  Examples include:
-Dr. Slump (while DB is Toriyama's most famous work, this is the one that put him and Jump on the map)
-Yu Yu Hakusho (I'm really shocked this wasn't here but they wanted probably to stick with HxH...pity)
-Ring Ni Kakero (same as Toriyama: Saint Seiya is Kurumada's most famous, but Ring both put him on the map and began to set up shonen standards that would carry over into the future)
-Doberman Detective (Once again: its a matter of which is bigger and more prioritizing.  Doberman put Buronson on the map and was successful and important in its time...but Fist of the North Star WAS the 80s)
-Cat's Eye (when talking of Hojo, half the population think this was the key, the other half say it was City Hunter.  The City Hunter half won this round)
-Video Girl AI/I''s (I'm not saying Wingman isn't important...in fact, some say that this series probably created the magic notebook concept Death Note used and is a notable action/romance hybrid...but the other two are more notable today of Katsura's works, with many saying I''s being ripped off for some other series)
-Sexy Commando Gaiden: Sugoi-yo, Masaru-kun (once again: Jaguar's in the magazine, Jaguar got in...even if some say Masaru defined the style of the modern comedy series)
-Hikaru no Go (This was big...Death Note was bigger)

2. I probably do believe it was extremely hard for them to decide "what are our most important series"...but while I like many of the choices, these had just as much if not more right to be there:
-Dokonjo Gaeru (probably one of the biggest in my head absentees: this was one of THE series of the early 70s and even was an influence for Nube in some ways...and yet they didn't even try to get it!)
-Koya no Shonen Isamu (one of the more notable action series of the early days...sure the mangaka probably did more famous works like Star of the Giants and such but this probably deserved some notability)
-Astro Kyuudan/Samurai Giants (other big baseball series but...I guess Play Ball got in more due to Chiba being well known and his tragic end)
-Barefoot Gen (My guess: outside something like Death Note, Jump doesn't want to be remembered for serious works...tragic)
-High School! Kimengumi (probably one of the most important series of the early 80s in Jump due to setting up the style that dominated the "teen comedies" of the period...sure it isn't UY or anything but it doesn't deserve to be ignored)
-Ginga: Nagareboshi Gin (Maybe they just don't like dogs)
-Tottemo! Luckyman (the series that got an anime sooner than any other Jump series...and its not here.  Then again...this could lead to more suspicion since "only one manga per mangaka" and if Ohba really is him...)
-Ninku (Even Kishimoto admitted to being influenced by Fuusuke...show some respect!)
-Ichigo 100% (yeah it was an I''s ripoff but it was one of the few notable romance series of this decade...)
-Black Cat/To-LOVE-Ru (Don't even want to know why Yabuki doesn't have anything...)
-D.Gray-man (probably the biggest absensce of the recent series...but the problem is probably that 2004 was that big a year..and they think Death Note, Gintama and Reborn are bigger..and probably are right.  But Allen has representation elsewhere so he probably doesn't care)

Probably a ton of others I'm forgetting but that mostly is in my head.

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[info]flipthepage

July 16 2008, 19:15:35 UTC 3 years ago

as the ONLY person who enjoyed akira akatsuki's previous work (from raws. I'll be purchasing the tankos alongside taizo, zan, and a fair few other small series. that's how shameful i am) i anticipate his new one shot with baited breath.

and yeah, where IS the ninku love?

[info]strangerataru

July 16 2008, 20:54:16 UTC 3 years ago

Hmm...usually I avoid the smaller series since a lot of the time they just eat up a lot of story in a quick time due to cancellation. But then again I did just buy "Ten de Showaru Cupid"...and that's less than a year in run...

I really don't get why Ninku didn't make that list considering how it is semi-important in Jump time.

[info]d_grayman

July 17 2008, 22:21:53 UTC 3 years ago

Interesting list, and helpful commentary - I don't have much to add but thanks a lot for the post! It does make me happy to see Reborn there, but DGM deserves a spot just as much; the editors just can't seem to give it a break. And what do you mean by the "Allen has representation elsewhere" comment? I've been away from the Jump world for a few weeks so if it's something in recent news I must've missed it.

[info]strangerataru

July 17 2008, 23:54:55 UTC 3 years ago

D.Gray-man does seem to have something else at Jump Island and will have a day of representation there (while YGO/Naruto/OP/DB get a week). Its too bad D.Gray didn't get in the library though...

[info]canalchuu

July 20 2008, 04:08:44 UTC 3 years ago

Hikaru no Go and Black Cat are two of my fav. ones, it's sad they didn't make it =(

[info]perrolococz

July 25 2008, 06:34:24 UTC 3 years ago

I am not happy with the list, as Ataru said this list is just not right...

1.-Absent:
Poor Yabuki Kentaro and Mizuki Kawashita, sure both of their most famous series are just a giant copypasta of clichés of their genre, but still... They could have added To-Love Ru since its doing well in tank sales.
I´d had said poor Hoshino but D-Gray already has his share of Jump 40th, anyway IMO if Gintama and Reborn got in D-Gray could have very well been in too, after all D-Gray is more popular worldwide.
Barefoot Gen should have been on the list, mainly because of being so different.
I don´t agree with Ninku, mainly because I have never read it, also because I don´t think is that important for Jump.
Luckyman, I guess he just didn´t get lucky this time because IMO he had as much of a chance as many titles... Then again it might be because of the "One manga per mangaka" rule.
The REALLY, as in extremelly really, really weird abscences for me are Cobra and to a lesser point Magical Taruruuto-Kun...


2.- "One manga per mangaka" rule, thanks to it the following mangas aren´t on the list.
Yu Yu Hakusho:
As much as I like HXH this should have been instead of it.

Dr. Slump:
Dragon Ball tops it so its OK, though it just feels wrong to do this...

Ring Ni Kakeru:
Haven´t read it, but Saint Seiya sold more and its still an extremelly good franchise for Kurumada, so its OK.

I¨S & Video Girl:
I looked at the list and every mangaka with 2 (or even 3) mangas to be choosen for the list just got his newest popular title choosen, so I guess this was Katsura´s decision, he´d have prefered to add Shadow Lady, but that was just 3 volumes worth, and not so popular so he choosed his other sentai manga to be on the list, if not then I¨S would have been on the list because its his newest WSJ work and also his best-seller.
In a way I am happy the man got to decide which of his works to be added, after he really never liked to do romantic manga as much as sentai manga :3

Mazinger:
Mazinger probably doesn´t really deserve a place in the Top 40, like in not to replace Harenchi Gakuen, but because of his new anime and it being a revolutionary concept for mecha back in the 60s it just deserves it... Grrrg, so confused!

Hikaru No Go:
As previously said this was big but DN was bigger. V__V

3.- HTF was this choosen?
I mean, the list isn´t even following manga sales...
Cobra, Magical Taruruuto-kun, Black Cat, Barefoot Gen, Ginga Nagareboshi Gin, Toilet Hakase, D-Gray Man, etc. Would have been on the list instead of series like Midori no Makibao, Bobobo-bo, Play Ball, Harenchi Gakuen, Stop!! Hibari-kun!, Jungle King Ta-Chan, etc.

Also, when-where is the book in sale?
BTW any info for Jump artbook? They had done for the 25th, 30th and 35th anniversary (Probably even for the 20th, 15th, 10th...) so I guess this year won´t be the exception ^__^

[info]strangerataru

July 25 2008, 15:35:42 UTC 3 years ago

Forgot quite a bit but amazingly some of these were actually remembered after all in one way or another. (did you see the Jump poster by Murata? Awesomeness...though the only complaint I've heard anywhere was a Japanese fan griping about "Black Angels" not making it...it did have a bit of a run and it is Hiramatsu's second hit after "Doberman Detective" but probably was more low-key and just not that big in an era of Dr. Slump, Cat's Eye, Tsubasa, Kinnikuman, etc.)

[info]perrolococz

July 25 2008, 19:02:51 UTC 3 years ago

Yup, I saw the posters, they are EPIC, I love the way Kamui Seiya is, so cool, also the Bastard drawing looks almost exactly the same, was it drawn by E21 mangaka as well or was it Bastard mangaka who helped drawing it?
BTW what Issue are they from? 34 or 35? Also, they are printed in the same poster, right? Or are they 2 different posters?
And I haven´t heard about this "Black Angels" manga... But if Mazinger wasn´t included then I don´t see why this should have.

[info]strangerataru

July 25 2008, 19:18:36 UTC 3 years ago

34...I think its Front/Back, with one side the "attacking warriors" and the other the "pirate ship".

Regarding who got in and who didn't, most of what was on the posters were series that did last a considerable period of time in the magazine, from the biggest hits to probably a few that lasted two-three years. (though Yushagaku got on and that is ending in issue 35) They really should have gotten a few more characters in somehow (Mazinger as you stated, maybe I think also Neuro or Lala and a few others we may not know about) but its epic.

And yes, all the characters, including that Dark Schneider, were drawn by Murata. (though somehow I find it strange that with all these Jump characters, he couldn't find a way to make Sena bigger on his own poster)

[info]perrolococz

July 26 2008, 07:49:58 UTC 3 years ago

I liked how he didn´t make Sena very big, it shows how humble he is, that´s something to admire.

I hadn´t noticed Yushagaku in the "Ship" poster, It might be because Yushagaku´s mangaka is a good friend of Murata... Or maybe was one of his assistants, I dunno... Or Murata just likes Yushagaku...
But adding Yushagaku and NOT adding To-Love Ru, Muhyo, D-Gray Man or Neuro means is something biased...

BTW do you know who the "Goku kid" that is smoking is?
Also, who is the girl that Ryo Sabedra is embracing? I don´t think she is from the same manga, or is she?



[info]strangerataru

July 26 2008, 11:11:18 UTC 3 years ago

Goku kid? Don't see him. And the girl with Ryo....I think that's Hibari from "Stop!! Hibari-kun!"

Quite a few series aren't in the pic, mostly recent series but somehow its like everyone post-Reborn isn't there. It just makes little sense that we have Ryuk, Gintoki and Reborn...but no Allen! (and heck you mentioned it: not even Muhyo) Is it Jump's fault or Murata's? (on the other hand: Allen, Neuro and Lala are all in the silly "Akimoto-drawn" pic in the KochiKame special...)

[info]perrolococz

July 26 2008, 18:17:57 UTC 3 years ago

Whose fault it is I dunno but I would have love to see a Lala drawn by Murata...

The "Goku kid" is the one above Ryuk and next to Bobobo, at least it looks like Goku to me because he is using his (Insert english for "baculo") like Goku used to do in Dragon Ball.

[info]strangerataru

July 26 2008, 20:10:04 UTC 3 years ago

I think he's the lead of Chinyuuki by Mangataro...he looks like him.

Surprisingly I actually know all the series everyone on that side of the poster is from...heck, I'm even surprised I found them all.
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